This is my first
Betrayal interview so I hope you don't mind that I ask some questions regarding the early
days. First I want to ask you a question about something I've always wondered about. On
Betrayal's debut-album, there are two songs written by you that seem to deal with
Satanism. Tell me how this type of lyrics originate.
I have had various experiences in earlier
years with Satanism, before coming to know the grace of God. Some were first hand, while
others were through acquaintances and stories passed through certain circles of people
practicing magic. All of which had a certain sense of validity to pass on creative stories
and warnings, through songs, to offer the truth and delivering power of God!
This sounds too vague to me. You said you
had various experiences yourself. What kind of experiences are you referring to?
You know, I dont honestly feel an
importance to go into depth about that. If someone can be led away from involvement or
curiosity in the occult from my testimony, then great, but sometimes sharing past sins
even though there under the blood, can be a dangerous thing! The Bible is clear,
"resist the Devil and He will flee" (James 4:7) as well as "avoid every
kind of evil" (1Thess. 5:22). The Bible is the definitive instruction manual and
anything I would say would only confirm that choosing a way of death, hate and lusts for
evil things is only the beginning of pain, depression and an open door to your worst
fears! The important fact is simple; it was finished on the cross. That means the way of
deliverance from all binding and controlling influences have been broken and the
opportunity to know love, peace and joy (which is impossible without God) has been made
available to all through the blood that was shed on Calvary.
I can understand that you don't want to
go into depth about what you call past sins. Still, you did that in early Betrayal. In
recent years I saw an increased interest in Satanism and occultism due to the upcoming of
black metal and gothic, I think. So, what do you feel about that and you're place in all
Betrayals re-appearance is no
mistake or cheap attempt at a reunion. Betrayal is not back to fulfill anyones
wishes of how we should sound, but to complete a task God has given. I believe the vision
will continue to grow as additional members will join and seek God together. Most of that
vision is place, but I dont presume to know the mind of Christ. I believe that we
will find ourselves in the thick of those who glorify Satan. "B" has always been
a band attacking spiritual ignorance, not a political type of message. Even though
"Leaving Nevermore" is more of a statement (geared towards believers, on a
whole), the re-definition of what were saying to a dying world and those so called Satanic
bands will be evident on the next release, which is under works with a title being held
for now. God chooses our battles, those for which we were called to win in His name. God
often uses that from which He has brought us from, therefore, what needs to be said at
that point will be said, in Christs name and authority!
As I understand it, Betrayal disbanded in
1993 partially due to a car-accident and a forthcoming death lawsuit. That doesn't sound
very nice to me. Can you explain what really happened, what made you decide to quit the
band and how the legal procedure ended?
Well, that is a great part of what really
happened, but the short of it was a case of genuine burnout by most of the band. There
were a ton of responsibilities mounting in the lives of us all and we were not going to be
doing anybody good when priorities at home were being neglected. It didnt end
poorly, just sadly. It seemed then, more could have been accomplished, but God was and is
on the throne, and it was finished for that time. As for the lawsuit, it was dropped, by
Yes, but why was it a death law-suite at
Since the tire of our trailer (carrying
our equipment) fell off while driving to the gig, the lawyers said it was that which
caused the truck to go off the road. Therefore a suit was filed. They later found the
people were speeding excessively and were not wearing seat belts as well.
After the split-up of the band, what did
you do musically?
I continued to rediscover music and all
the great things that were starting to appear in the music industry. Such as sounds,
techniques and different ways to approach songwriting. I had some interaction with other
players and projects, as well as a small tour with Deliverance.
But you didn't bring anything out on CD?
The years between releases, is a mixture
of rediscovering vision & music. It was a time of writing and recording music in other
projects (which might be made available at some point), as well as being a part of the
band Deliverance (for the second time). That involved some touring and making an
appearance on their last release. Primarily, I think it was a season of waiting on God, as
well as getting married and establishing goals.
You were part of Deliverance in the late
eighties, prior to joining Martyr, the band that preceded Betrayal. And you were part of
the last Deliverance album, Camelot In Smithereens. I'm told there are plans about the
reuniting of Deliverance too. What do you know about that and about plans to record a
Weapons Of Our Warfare Part II?
I have no idea! I havent spoken to
Jimmy in a while. If hes got plans to do that I wouldnt have a clue. The last
I knew he said hed never do Deliverance again, but as we know things change.
Now you're back with Betrayal. Musically
this new album is different compared to the old albums. There are still some heavy guitars
used but there are many mellow moments as well. What kind of audience do you hope to
attract through Leaving Nevermore?
As of now, pin-point marketing is blown
out of the water! I can only pray, that it finds the way to the people God has for me to
say something too. I believe it has a home in the Gothic / Industrial movements, where
its picked up recognition. The sound is from the heart and moved by the Spirit of
God, so I believe in time it will accomplish its purpose and grow from there.
Leaving Nevermore was supposed to be
released through Worldhate Media but the copy I have is a Black & White Records
release. As I understand it this is your wife's initiative. I visited the Worldhate Media
site some time ago and there I saw the biography of Betrayal as if you're on their label.
However, today I revisited it but I saw nothing about Betrayal. So, what's the story
Being where God wants you is the most
important thing in a believers life (I think you would agree). Therefore, it was
clear in the developments of the release that "B" should be on our own label. We
simply wanted to see things handled the way "B" needed to be and to ensure that,
Black & White Records was formed. This way waiting on any other label to do what we
felt was of importance wouldnt be an issue
Do you mean you ended working with
What you dont understand is nothing
got started! Its a dead issue and the parties who run Worldhate Media are friends of
mine and always have been. We now support each other in various ways. Thats all!
On this album I hear all kinds of
influences and styles. The new biography states it's modern rock/industrial. Personally I
don't think that does justice to the sound and feel of the album. How would you describe
Man, I dont know! Just about the
time others or I put their finger on it, A new adjective or comparison is made. Overall,
its dark, beautiful and driving!
Leaving Nevermore is basically a Marcus
N. Colon product, not only because you wrote all the music but you played most instruments
too. At what point did you decide to do it under the moniker Betrayal?
Truly, when God told me too! I was not
intending to do that, but the Lord very much prompted me. That came about a third of the
way in to the recording process. (Who knew?)
How did this become clear to you?
As for how it became clear, like all
things in the Lord, through prayer, fasting and the reading of His word, He makes His will
known to us! God doesnt have you do something and not reveal Himself to you. The key
is obedience! Walk in faith and He will make His ways known. In His timing!!!
This might be a very personal question
but how did He reveal it to you? Was it just a thought that was coming back to you or did
He speak to you somehow, or how else?
Youre right, it is personal. I will
say this, I do know when God impresses something in my spirit and it cannot be confused
with self will or the enemy! Its peaceful, direct and doesnt contradict His
The lyrics in the early days were, to my
idea, statement-like lyrics. Compared to these songs the new tracks are more vague. Is
there some kind of lyrical agenda for this new album? Something you want to get across?
Yeah, and good question! Its more
to the body of Christ, to those who have strayed and become weary of the things of God.
Most assuredly, there are songs addressing the crucial need of choosing Christ as savior,
but with great numbers of people who have seemingly walked away from their faith, the
burden was towards them and they will know whats being said on "Leaving
Nevermore" when they hear it.
Is that one of the reasons why you
believe God wanted you to do this under the moniker Betrayal?
I like that! To be honest Im not
sure. It kind of goes with the previous answer. I did often think (while recording), if
one friend who has strayed from the Lord rededicated their life in result of
"L.N.", it would all be worthwhile! I dont believe "B purpose
is for only one thing or another, but to do the whole will of God. However, that question
could be valid for the initial reappearing of Betrayal.
Betrayal in the early nineties
Though this album isn't a band product
you're starting a band. Tell more how that's developing right now.
That is the goal, which is in Gods
hand! Ultimately, I dont believe Im going to move forward with the music and
most importantly the ministry aspects of "B" alone.
What do you mean by that? What are you
planning to do?
I feel like "B" will redevelop
into a music ministry much like before. I dont feel like "B" will lead
from behind, but be on the front lines against the enemy. Rallying bands and individuals
to do warfare has always been a burden. Thats why Pastor Bob & Sanctuary are
sorely missed here in California. Moving as one on the streets and in prayer is powerful.
Thats where I see Betrayal in the future!
That brings back memories of those Pastor
Bob approved CD's! Uh, to go back to my initial question, what about forming a band?
Several months have passed since the release of Leaving Nevermore. Have you formed a band?
I do have a drummer (Brian Poindexter)
who used to play with Mortal and Im now in talks with another guitarist. So, it
might be several years or several days, but the new line-up will come together and need I
.In Gods time!
And what's going to happen musically?
What musical territories are you going to explore more, the electronic areas or the heavy
Another good question. The answer is
both! You will be hearing a greater return of the guitar crunch, but complimented with the
dark brooding gothic keys. I can assure you the sound will be better than ever!