|Jaap, can you tell us why Tefilla split up this
Yes. I will try to do that in short. When we started
we began with five people. At a certain time the drummer left the band and we got a new
one. That went very well. The band moved on full steam ahead. However, at a certain
moment he had to stop for personal reasons and since that time we tried for some time to
go on but in the end it didn't work out. So, we decided to stop.
Right. And as I understand it, it had to with the departure of
guitarist Leo too.
Yeah. He was the one who wrote all the songs. That's why we had
something like "when we go on it will be completely different and it won't be like
what Tefilla was all about."
Why then did he leave the band?
Leo left the band in the end because he didn't want to go the direction we were heading
with the new drummer. And besides that he was just a bit burned out concerning
Tefilla. And things went so slow.
Are there no other guitarists in the Northern parts of our
country that could adopt the same style of playing?
No, that's very meager here.
Did you look for one because I knew nothing about it.
We did seek for a new guitarist but, to be honest, not very hard.
We had something like, "this is the line-up we started with and it was a strong
line-up." We also wanted to stay with our sound. And write songs in that style and
make music. We had something like, this is typically the style of this guitarist. So, we
were all ready for new challenges. That's how I want to put it.
I wonder if the splitting up of the band has anything to do with
your former manager, Abhay van den Berg. He was talking about a tour with Meshuggah and
dates for such a tour were even printed in a Dutch hardrock magazine. And your album would
be released through Nuclear Blast and the band would tour the States, he said. But nothing
happened and the CD didn't come out (the album was recorded in early 1996). Are that
frustrations you had as a band that made it difficult?
No, not really. Between the band-members there was no conflict.
And the Abhay van den Berg stage was past. We had a good contact with the label that
finally brought out the CD, Fear Dark. That went well. We had a few concerts coming up.
So, that was all right. No, that's not a reason we split up.
Aha. And, to summarize, it's because of the trouble finding a
drummer that the band dissolved gradually?
So, there will be no reunion?
No. Well, we met each other again and we said, "let's go in
the practicing-room again to play a few songs." But that's just the fun we share with
Isn't it weird to stop Tefilla after more than six years?
Yeah, it was very strange. Especially in the beginning. But, like
I said, I went on in music. I have a new band now where I am vocalist again and where I
can train my vocal abilities more. That's a nice thing that comes up with it.
I understand that you want to focus on the future. But don't you
think it's a pity that Tefilla ended?
Of course that's a pity. Especially then, at that time, because it looked like things
were going to come together once again. But what I want to say is, look out for my new
band, you'll like it!
Yeah, that's what were gonna talk about now. What
are the former members of Tefilla doing now? You already said that you're in a new band.
Can you tell something more about that?
Yes. I'm now in a band that's more into groovy metal
like System Of A Down. I don't know if the listeners now that band. It's a very
progressive groovy metalband. And there are lots of combinations of vocals and the
And Tefilla was a Christian band that wanted to
bring the Christian message. How is that with your new band?
That's not the case with my new band. I'm the only
Christian in the band. Only the lyrics are written by me. So, of course, there is some
Christian inspiration in it. I write those lyrics as a Christian. There is a little
Christian message in it but we don't bring it.
By the way, what's the name of the band?
Grey? That sounds a bit colorless!
Sorry. I'm just kidding.
For a lot of people this is grey area too.
Okay, what is bass-player Edwin van der Laan doing
At this moment his bass-guitar is in the cup-board.
So, he isn't doing anything with music so far.
And guitarist Leo van Gilst? As I understood it he
wanted to do something solo or with other guys.
Yeah, that's what he's pushing hard. And he started
a new band that's almost a copy of Meshuggah in which he can do his thing like he wants
What's the name of that band?
The band has no name so far. They just started. What I can tell you
at the moment is that we with Grey will do a gig with his band on the 21st of
January 2000 in Groningen City. That will be in the Simplon club.
Is that a Christian band or more secular?
Yeah, that's also more secular. It has nothing to do
with denying Christianity or something. It has more to do with doing a hobby.
To utter yourself musically with a couple of persons
that are of the same high musical level.
And the other members. I think of Jan Hofman
Well, he has stopped music completely as he owns two
companies. He is busy with that. The other guitarist (Jeroen, mpo) went to college. He
doesn't have a band at this moment. He is still into music but not active in a band.
I have one last question. Recently a CD came out
with the Tefilla song Scenes Beyond The Grave. That should have been the title of the
album but the song wasn't put on it in the end. Why?
We thought that the song, compared to the other
songs that are on the album, was of less quality and therefore we decided to leave it out.
And so the CD isn't called after it. We did that in cooperation with Fear Dark.
I'm gonna play another song from the Grievous
Anguish album and that's Horn Of Salvation. What's the song about?
It's about the redemption-work of Jesus and that he
owes all the glory. That he saved us from eternal death and gave us eternal life instead.